Derivatives panel 2013-08-12 at 17:30 localtime. Members Chaired by Paul Wise wookey representing Emdebian Holger Levsen representing Debian Edu Colin Watson representing Ubuntu Raphaƫl Hertzog representing Kali Linux Jean-Michel Philippe representing DoudouLinux Backups intrigeri representing Tails Prepared questions Introductions; briefly tell us about your derivative and your role in it. What are we doing well? What can we do to make derivative's lives easier? What is your experience of rebranding Debian? What are your derivatives doing for Debian? Plans for the future? Are any of your developers members of Debian or in NM? Funding sources and relationships with your corporate backer? Influence development direction? When patching orphaned packages, do you do QA uploads? Release cycle working for you? Those derivatives not based on stable; how is your release process different or better than Debian? How could we accommodate your improvements within Debian? ARM strategies - dealing with a multitude of kernel versions and binary blobs. Preinstalled/OEM images - Some derivatives are producing images of pre-installed systems. How are you dealing with things like avoiding having OpenSSH generated private keys in the image. Should Debian do things in a more optimal way? Discussion summary ...