== #debian IRC notes for stretch→buster release                      ==
== gobby:Teams/IRC/Releases/stretch-buster                           ==
== https://gobby.debian.org/export/Teams/IRC/Releases/stretch-buster ==

== all factoid updates applied 20190707

== symlink factoids

no sources.list is <reply>see buster sources.list
no installation guide is <reply> see buster installation guide
no release notes is <reply> see buster release notes
no installer firmware is <reply>see installer firmware buster
no errata is <reply> see errata buster


== Factoids with "stable" in key (check for "stretch" in the value):
==  http://ircbots.debian.net/factoids/search.php?q=stable&term=key

no stable-updates is <reply> see buster-updates
stable =~ s/Stretch (9.x)/Buster (10.x)/
stable sources.list =~ s/jessie->stretch/stretch->buster/
stable sources.list =~ s/stretch/buster/
stable sources.list =~ s/stretch/buster/
no stable->testing is <reply>see buster->bullseye
no oldstable->stable is <reply>see stretch->buster
no oldstable is <reply>see stretch
no oldstable-security is <reply>see stretch-security
no oldoldstable is <reply>see jessie
no oldoldstable-security is <reply>see jessie-security
no stable/updates is <reply>see buster-security
no install oldstable is <reply>see install stretch
no buster security is <reply>see buster/updates
security =~ s/stretch/buster/
stretch =~ s/stable/oldstable/
jessie =~ s/oldstable/oldoldstable/
stable kernel =~ s/stretch/buster/

stretch/buster mix is <reply>see stable/testing mix
no buster/sid mix is <reply>No, you should not try to mix buster and sid.  Doing so is going to lead to tears and you'll struggle to find anyone to help you sort out your mess.  Ask me about <bobbitt>, <simple sid backport>, <backports.debian.org>.

no buster release notes is <reply>The release notes for Debian 10 "Buster" are at https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/release-notes/ . See also <stretch->buster>, <buster install guide>

no install buster is <reply>There are a myriad of different ways to install Debian.  See http://www.debian.org/releases/buster/debian-installer for a list of images and ask me about <netinst>, <various cd1> and <firmware images>.  See also <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions.  (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.)


== Factoids with "buster" in key (check for "testing" in the value):
==  http://ircbots.debian.net/factoids/search.php?q=buster&term=key

no quick buster/sid mix is <reply> see mixing stable and unstable
no buster/sid mix is <reply> see mixing stable and unstable
no buster unstable mix is <reply> see mixing stable and unstable
no buster->sid is <reply> see stable->unstable
no buster/sid is <reply> If /etc/debian_version says "buster/sid", then you have an out-of-date buster installation. Try upgrading it to the current buster release and check to see if you have any <not available> packages that are actually from some (outdated) sid. Ask me about <testing/unstable>.
no why buster/sid is <reply>see buster/sid
no testing/unstable is <reply> Debian doesn't distinguish if a system runs testing or unstable. "buster/sid" means a system is either tracking testing or unstable (or a mix). If you want the list of releases your system really tracks, ask me about <tracked suites>. Also ask about <list repositories>, <not available>. See also /usr/share/doc/base-files/FAQ ("Questions about /etc/issue and /etc/debian_version").
testing =~ s/buster/bullseye/
no buster-backports is <reply> Some packages intended for Bullseye (Debian 11) but recompiled for use with Buster (Debian 10) can be found in the buster-backports repository. See http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ . Ask me about <bdo>, <backports>.

== Factoids with "stretch" in the value (check for "stable" in the value)
==    http://ircbots.debian.net/factoids/search.php?q=stretch&term=value

dmm =~ s/<dmm jessie>/<dmm buster>/
contrib =~ s/jessie|stretch|sid/stretch|buster|bullseye|sid/
no branch is What release (version) of Debian you are using: jessie/oldoldstable, stretch/oldstable, buster/stable, bullseye/testing, sid/unstable.  Ask me about <version>.
backports.debian.org =~ s/stretch/buster/
backports.debian.org =~ s/jessie/stretch/
bdo kernel =~ s/stretch/buster/
bdo kernel =~ s/stretch/buster/
dbgsym =~ s/stretch/buster/
debgen =~ s/jessie/buster/


== Factoids with "testing" in key (check for "buster" in the value):
==  http://ircbots.debian.net/factoids/search.php?q=testing&term=key

testing sources.list =~ s/stretch/bullseye/
testing sources.list =~ s/stretch/bullseye/

no testing is <reply>Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <bullseye>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting . Support in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net and ask me about <testing faq> <buster->bullseye> <testing security> <moving target> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You need a sound knowledge of Debian and be prepared for a very bumpy ride. Don't use it on things that are critical!


== Factoids with "stretch" in the value
==    http://ircbots.debian.net/factoids/search.php?q=stretch&term=value

upgrade =~ s/jessie->stretch/stretch->buster/

dmm buster is <reply>If you really need deb-multimedia.org (are you sure your information isn't ten years out of date?), then (as root): echo "deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ buster main non-free" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dmm.list; apt update && apt install deb-multimedia-keyring && apt update.  For an alternative way to load Marillat's archive key, ask me about <apt-key 1F41B907>. See <why not dmm>.

firefox buster is <reply>Debian 10 "Buster" currently contains the extended support release (ESR) version Firefox 60. Like previous releases, buster will track the ESR release until a new ESR becomes needed for security updates. Ask me about <firefox-esr> <buster/updates>.

no freeze is <reply>The 'freeze' is when large changes to testing version of Debian are stopped for few months. During this period, no new package uploads are made except to fix critical bugs or to provide documentation updates. During the freeze, bugs are squashed to 'stabilize' the release to make the new 'stable'.

no introduction is <reply> Debian is a free (as in <dfsg>) and universal operating system. It mainly consists of three releases: <stable> (currently <buster>), <testing> (currently <bullseye>) and <unstable> (<sid>). Each is further divided in several components: <main>, <contrib> and <non-free>. See also <overview>, <fundamentals> and <security>.

== Factoids with "sid" in the value
==    http://ircbots.debian.net/factoids/search.php?q=sid&term=value


== Create the new testing
==   (a few days after the release!)
== Conventions:
==   - create a factoid for each release that judd will know about;
==     this one will be the main factoid and others will symlink to it

bullseye/updates is <reply>see bullseye-security
bullseye/security is <reply>see bullseye-security
bullseye security is <reply>see bullseye-security
bullseye-security is <reply>see testing-security
bullseye-proposed-updates is <reply> see testing-proposed-updates
bullseye-updates is <reply> bullseye-updates is not used while bullseye is the testing release. Once stable, it will provide updates to some packages (from <proposed-updates>) prior to a <point release>. Not to be confused with <bullseye/updates> which is for <security> updates (and also not normally used for 'testing'!).
bullseye-debug is <reply>The "bullseye-debug" archive contains the automatically generated packages with debugging symbols for packages for binary packages in the buster release. Ask me about <dbgsym>.
bullseye-backports is <reply>see testing-backports
bullseye-multimedia is <reply>see deb-multimedia

bullseye/sid mix is <reply>see tum
bullseye/sid is <reply>see testing/unstable
why bullseye/sid is <reply>see testing/unstable

no bullseye sources.list is <reply>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Bullseye" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security bullseye/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main".  Note that bullseye does not yet have security support and a <moving target>. See <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <bullseye/updates> <bullseye-updates> and "man sources.list"."

no bullseye is <reply>The release following Debian 10 "Buster" is codenamed "Bullseye" (Woody's horse in Toy Story 2) and will be Debian 11. It is the current "testing" release. Remember that straight after a stable release, all sorts of mess suddenly lands in "testing" and it is best avoided if you don't like debugging things. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2016/07/msg00002.html

install bullseye is <reply>see install testing.

buster->bullseye is <reply>Given buster has only just released, it is highly recommended that if you don't know enough about Debian to already know how to do this on your own, that you don't even try. The Debian 'testing' release is really messy straight after the release.

bullseye pool is <reply> See <bullseye pool 1> for bets placed on when Bullseye will release.  To add one, ask me about <bullseye bet>.
bullseye bet is <reply> To add a bet to the <bullseye pool>, /msg dpkg bullseye pool 1 =~ s/!/! yournick=yyyy-mm-dd/ and when "bullseye pool 1" is full, create "bullseye pool 2" and update this factoid.
bullseye pool 1 is <reply>! themíll=2021-09-01

 
== Additional bits
no buster is <reply>Buster is the codename for the current <stable> release, Debian 10, released 2019-07-06. "Buster" is Andy's pet Dachsund in Toy Story, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianBuster . Ask me about <install buster>, <release notes>, <stretch->buster>.

no buster installation guide is <reply> The Installation Guide for Debian 10 "Buster" can be found at https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/installmanual . See also <errata> and <buster release notes>.

firmware images buster is <reply> see firmware images

installer firmware buster is <reply>Debian-Installer is able to load  additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media  or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy).  See http://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/ch06s04 .  To include firmware within Debian <netboot> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware .  See also <firmware images>.

no buster sources.list is <reply>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Buster" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main". See <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <buster/updates> <buster-updates> and "man sources.list".

updates =~ s/<stretch-updates>, <jessie-updates>/<buster-updates>, <stretch-updates>/

errata buster is <reply>Last minute notes regarding Debian 10 ("Buster") are listed at http://www.debian.org/releases/buster/errata .  Known problems in the installer are listed at http://www.debian.org/releases/buster/debian-installer/#errata

no stretch->buster is <reply>Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> http://deb.li/JFKc . TL;DR: In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "stretch" to "buster", remove stable-specific lines like stretch-backports. apt update && apt upgrade && apt full-upgrade. 3rd party repos like <dmo> are known to cause problems with the upgrade.

buster installer is <reply> see install buster

buster-updates is <reply>buster-updates is a suite providing updates to some packages (from <proposed-updates>) prior to a <point release>.  All packages from buster-updates will be included in point releases.  https://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates .  Not to be confused with <buster/updates> which is for <security> updates.

buster-proposed-updates is <reply> see stable-proposed-updates
no buster/updates is <reply> see buster-security

buster-security is <reply>On Debian 10 "Buster" systems, there are two repositories that you should have in your sources.list aside from your main mirror.  You should have an entry for "buster/updates" which is security updates (ask me about <security>) and also an entry for "buster-updates" which is other updated packages.  See also <sources.list>.


no release history is <reply>Named after "Toy Story" characters. Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-03-09), Potato(2.2; 2000-08-15), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06), Etch(4.0; 2007-04-08), Lenny(5.0; 2009-02-14), Squeeze(6.0; 2011-02-06), Wheezy(7; 2013-05-04), Jessie(8; 2015-04-25), Stretch (9; 2017-06-17). Next: Buster. http://deb.li/it56U

no release is <reply>Debian 10 "Buster" was released on 2019-07-06. It is now considered "stable". Ask me about <install debian>, <stretch->buster> to upgrade from Debian 9 "Stretch". See http://www.debian.org/releases/ or <release history> for other releases. For updates from the Debian Release Team, see http://release.debian.org/

latest =~ s/'jessie' (8), 'stretch' (9), 'buster' (testing), 'sid' (unstable)/'jessie' (8), 'stretch' (9), 'buster' (10), bullseye (testing), 'sid' (unstable)/

codenames =~ s/and sid/buster (10) and sid/

no when will buster release is <reply>IT'S OUT!  http://www.debian.org/News/2019/20190706

no buster bet is <reply> see buster pool
no buster pool is <reply>The pool about when <buster> would release was won by coruja with 2019-06-25! fmneto was the most off track with 2019-10-15. Most improved award to jelly. Ask me about <buster pool 1> to see the bets placed.  See also <bullseye pool>.

no oldstable is <reply>OldStable the previous stable version of Debian, as long as it is still supported by the security team. Debian 9 "Stretch" is oldstable.  It is recommended to upgrade your system(s) to the current stable release, ask me about <oldstable->stable>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOldStable or see <lifespan> <stretch-lts>.

buster-lts is <reply>buster-lts is <reply>It is expected that extended security support for Debian 10 "Buster" will be offered by the <LTS> project after the Debian Security Team ceases supporting stretch in mid 2022. See https://wiki.debian.org/LTS for more information.


forget oldoldstable security
rename 'oldstable security' 'oldoldstable security'
oldstable security is <reply> see stretch security

bobbitt =~ s/Stretch/Buster/

no point release is <reply>Point releases are updates to <stable> and <oldstable>, fixing security and grave bug fixes. If you track security updates regularly (as you should!) there will often be no updates for you in the point release. You can upgrade to the latest point release by referencing a Debian <mirror> in /etc/apt/sources.list, then "apt update && apt full-upgrade". There are no point releases for Debian 10 "Buster" yet; see <9.9>.  http://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases/PointReleases.


== TODO 

== Missed last time

rolling


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== Notes for whomever makes use of this pad to make changes:

    Don't just copy and paste in large slabs of "forget" or "no" commands -- dpkg will end up ignoring you

    You are limited to 4 or 5 "forget" per day per hostmask -- you can do some on freenode and some on oftc. Exceeding this gets you ignored by dpkg for several days. When dpkg says "Stop abusing forget" it means it.

    There is an unknown limit on queries to dpkg in general and exceeding that results in "Too many queries from you, ignoring for 5 minutes." Batch the "rename"s and "no"s into smaller chunks so even if you get ignored, you easily know which ones weren't processed yet.

    Mark the commands that have been applied with #

    If you think of other factoids that need updating, please add them to this pad -- we'll keep a copy of this whiteboard around a starting point for the Bullseye release editing :)

    A few days after release, check the website for recently changed factoids that have broken xrefs
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