lucas - how is being run? Practical session, 4-5 hours depending. Based on the packaging-tutorial package. The practical sessions' packages currently have bugs. These need looking at: - Gnujump session doesn't work - fix upstream's build system, or fork & put on github? - add perl session? Use cases: dom has a workshop coming up - mostly debian sysadmins and users matthew - people who are familiar with rpms currently. how about getting people involved in projects? easy to teach people the technical machinery, difficult to get real buy-in for useful hack for running a presentation - sticky notes on laptop screens: http://software-carpentry.org/bootcamps/operations.html Debian mentors - worth pointing people at - IRC etc. Lucas: MOOCs? screencasts?