## DC16 @ CapeTown
# LSB BoF

	gobby.debian.org → debconf16/bof/lsb





















# Short history

2002 - LSB 1.1 first package in Debian
2004 - Chris Lawrence <lawrencc> as maintainer
       LSB 2
2005 - LSB 3
2006 - LSB 3.1
2008 - LSB 3.2
2012 - Didier Raboud <odyx> becomes maintainer
       Start merge from Ubuntu
       Left green [ OK ] blocks
       LSB 4.1
2013 - Lots of cleanup
       More merge from Ubuntu
2014 - Growing concerns about LSB in general
       DebConf14 BoF discussing LSB on the long-term
       Baseline was "want LSB? → Help LSB"
2015 - LSB 5 released, not adapted for Debian
       
       9.20150826 upload
       Dropping all non-mandatory LSB packages
       LSB is about binary compatibility
       Debian doesn't check that it satisfies LSB
       Debian wouldn't alter its packages to satisfy the LSB
       Debian is not LSB-certified (no-one is)
       It's therefore better to drop our pseudo-support instead of
       continuing to pretend we have correct support
2016 - Ubuntu notices EPSON still releases printer driver packages
       depending on the `lsb` package, and partially reverts the
       packages drop in a Stable Release Update (xenial 9.20160110ubuntu0.1)
       https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lsb/+bug/1536353


# As Debian; what do we do about that ?
       
* There are packages out there that continue to depend on lsb, or lsb-*
* We don't have a list.
* We know of epson-inkjet-printer-201106w (.deb converted from .rpm usig alien)
	Depends: lsb (>= 3.2)

	google-earth depends on lsb-core, needs the ldconfig symlinks

* It is a user service question.





FlexLM licensing software




There are 3 options:
A) Nothing
     Try applying our levers on EPSON (and others)
     That was kinda the original plan; that the removal would bring
     awareness of the problem.
B) Ubuntu way
     Re-add lsb, lsb-printing and lsb-security to have
     epson-inkjet-printer-201106w be installable and runnable.

C) Debian way ?

New binary package:
     lsb-compat (9.20160728)
     	Provides: lsb (= 4.1), lsb-printing (= 4.1), lsb-security (= 4.1), lsb-core (= 4.1)
        Replaces: ^
        Breaks: 
     	Depends: whatever was in lsb4.1 and that is needed by epson-inkjet, google-earth
		(Added by Ubuntu: libjpeg62)
     	Debian bug: #609882
Release notes entry

	debian-lsb@lists.debian.org

D) Fix the LSB & provide the minimal subset of LSB 5