https://debconf20.debconf.org/talks/20-use-perl-annual-meeting-of-the-debian-perl-group/ Time: Aug 25 (Tue): 12:00 UTC Duration: 0:45 There's a pad for questions at https://pad.online.debconf.org/p/20-use-perl-annual-meeting-of-the-debian-perl-gr *HEADS UP* the pad above will also be used for notes and agenda. The whole content of this gobby doc will be replaced by the content of the pad afterwards. On IRC there's #debian-perl (and #dc20-talks) *UPDATE* The original pad has been archived at https://salsa.debian.org/debconf-team/public/data/dc20-online/-/raw/master/etherpads/txt/20-use-perl-annual-meeting-of-the-debian-perl-gr.txt What follows is an edited version, to be sent to the ML as a report: Organisation ============ Who takes notes? Who monitors (which) IRC channels? * bittin - Taking Notes (monitoring #debian-perl) * utkarsh2102 - monitoring #debconf, in case there are any questions. Welcome, who's here? ==================== Introduce yourself if you like * bittin * fsfs * nodens * Dom * gregoa * cstamas * toddr * utkarsh2102 * Yadd * Etienne Mollier * kanashiro * carnil Team status =========== https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianPerlGroup/Statistics * Members/committers * LHF sessions gregoa announced the numbers and the numbers were discussed. Future of LHF sessions ====================== * The Meetings are held 17:00 UTC and 19:00 UTC and it changes from month to month * Dom suggested to maybe have Video meetings (On Debians Jitsi Instance) and not only IRC meetings * Should be held once a month every 21th at 17:00 UTC or 19:00 UTC * A suggestion was to have them at an earlier timeslot some of the months (→ to be discussed on the ML) * Another suggestion was to have LHF Meetings to be about specific topics to discuss about and work with during a session * And another suggestion was to make it more interactive. → utkarsh2102 to post to the mailinglist directly about that Sprints ======= * Online Sprint May 2020 (happened online due to COVID-19 Coronavirus): https://wiki.debian.org/Sprints/2020/DebianPerlSprint Report: https://perl-team.pages.debian.net/docs/sprint-online2020/report-online2020.html Worked well but not as nice as an in-person meeting, but it went well anyways. Would want to have more Online Sprints until they can happen in person again. * Future sprints Do something similar to the Online Sprint in May, sometime during Autumn 2020 (→ exact dates to be discussed and chosen on the mailing list) Perl 5.32 transition ==================== We should have this in Debian Bullseye so get it fixed before freeze in January 2021 * Scheduling * Blockers: - perl-tk, RFH, bug: 960863 -- Give Collin the Debian Maintainer a Week or Two to Respond with a fix - IPv6 build failures - Waiting for Dom to upload a patch to fix upstream bug, in libio-socket-ip-perl #964902 workaround about bug in glibc; people will talk to upstream about this [update: both fixed in the meantime] [update: 5.32 uploaded to unstable on 2020-11-08, migrated to testing on 2020-11-18] Perl 7 ====== * https://lists.debian.org/debian-perl/2020/06/msg00022.html * Current status (so far as dom can tell; fast moving topic) * might result in >1 supported Perl version in Debian; difficult topic * the cpan modules should be the same for perl 7 and 5.32 (gregoa) - What about the corner cases where Postgres uses Perl in a very hidden place?, that should be good to look at before we move along to far in the update cycle and that might us end up in a bad place, what other packages is using perl? everything in Debian can (carp for example) * Dom is somewhat involved in the Core Perl Discussions Revisit items from the BoF at DebConf19 ======================================= https://lists.debian.org/debian-perl/2019/08/msg00013.html * Removal of unmaintained quasi-native packages * pkg-components (few remaining rdeps) might be able to get rid of it completely, libparse-debianchangelog-perl (removed), license-reconcile (removed) [update: all rdeps of pkg-components fixed, pkg-components removed] * Embperl either gets kept or Axel takes it over outside the team. - Do someone wanna revive the conversation with upstream about this? - Dom to email Axel Miscelleanous, Any other business ================================= * pkg-perl social event on jitsi at a later point this week? [update: did not happen] "Leftovers" =========== (What to take to the BoF at DebCOnf21, a gobby document was created at https://gobby.debian.org/export/debconf21/bof/pkg-perl) * tooling for inactive group members * (policy?) * dgit * salsa-ci https://salsa.debian.org/salsa-ci-team/pipeline/-/blob/master/README.md "recipes/debian.yml@salsa-ci-team/pipeline" * R³ (policy?)